On another level, your husband wants to strike out on his own, by himself, on a grand adventure. if you dont want there to be issues. I dont understand why were in a relationship if he rather stay at his parents instead and not trying to build a life with me. some of my siblings and their significant others would come only for lunch and head out, sometimes theyd stay longer, etc etc. And actually what I am promoting is having a casual conversation about things that are important to you to find out where both of you stand. You really do have to take strong measures to get through to them. Youre right. hops the bus and goes straight home. Youve lived together for three weeks. maybe your boyfriend assumes that if you guys dont have plans, you can spend time at his familys. Well, nobody lives forever, and guess what happens when were all in our 40s-50s? Yeah.. You SHOULD sit down and have a rational, democratic discussion about the BIG ISSUES before you move in together, if you havent already discussed them outright. But it sounds like they like things just the way they are. Oh yeah I forgot about that. Stop getting angry over small unrelated things and tell him what is really bothering you. One thing you can try before just accepting things as they are or moving on already is to start scheduling activities and day trips on the weekends that your boyfriend is home. That way your BF gets to see his parents, and you arent having to schlep back and forth. Just want to put my two cents in: I think its all about communicating. If I say Im ready to get home on one of those nights, his dad always makes a comment trying to make me feel guilty for leaving even if weve spent the entire day there. Except for the part where they are not spending much time together at all, lets_be_honest If they cant spend an entire weekend apart, its dysfunctional. She thought he would change, and he hasnt. If he did this every single night, though, I would not be so supportive, to say the least. January 20, 2012, 11:45 am. This can also be a consequence ifhis parents are selfishand manipulate him into feeling bad because he doesnt see them enough. But know that you arent over reacting what you are feeling is completely normal. Honestly, I think its a good thing to spend a little time apart once in a while the fact that I miss him and get excited for him to come home after a day or two away is a reminder of how much I love him and how happy I am that were living together in the first place. In all fairness- he probably has no idea this Irks LW so much. He considers you a party breaker because you dont want to sit all day every weekend with his family and listen to the same stories. Its time for him to grow up. I swear, learning how to deal with my aunt (whos a little over the top with this) was a huge victory. Read some of the most popular Dear Wendy posts here. ReginaRey Im also close to my family, however, I never make my boyfriend feel left out and I always make him feel that he is the priority. ?? artsygirl Although given the choice between vegging out at my house or my parents house, Ill choose mine every time. June 18, 2014, 11:34 am. Maybe Im the weird one who, even if I leave work early, never seems to get home until wayyyy late. Yes, this. I think more than anything, you have to have a VERY solid foundation of good communication to have a successful live-in relationshipand this letter makes me feel, at least, that they havent been together long enough to achieve that. However, my husband isnt like that at all. Other than the timeline (which could be a typo), Im confused about something else. Melissa Melms, who lives with her fianc in Hoboken, New Jersey, says making time for herself amps up her happiness, which in turn benefits the relationship. Most people dont want to know about the SO cheating, not because of the cheating, but the outcome of the cheating. Next time, instead of going on trips together, try eating out or going for a picnic. I mean, I worked so hard to play for this place, might as well enjoy it on occasion. If the moms just dropping by it cant be *that* far away. Im not sure how much leverage she has with the parents. They clearly have poor communication if she states her feelings and he minimizes and ignores them. I hate having family stay over at our house. Thats why the weekend is an extra time to do everything you didnt get to on weekdays. You arent happy and yet you stay. At least, most of the time. I have a friend whose husband is like this. I mean if youre banging before you move in together surely youve discussed birth control and/or in case of an accidental pregnancy scenarios. Laura Hope after the fact she admitted there were things wrong with the relationship but she was so in love with him and couldnt imagine that he was really doing that to her. Its when a relationship switches from the wooing phase to the were together phase. You want to spend the weekend together, and he has to visit each of them. I was saying you would know/discuss important things because you are in a relationship, without a business meeting atmosphere. Maybe you can offer to make dinner or get tickets to a play or museum show. WebHere are potential reasons why your husband goes out every weekend without you. but you have to talk to him about it. Maybe the new place would start to feel more like home. But whatever you do, LW, dont make this some kind of Choose them or me test. January 20, 2012, 9:34 am. Hopefully by the time you are an adult you have been given and shown the coping skills youll need to support Yourself. Once that ebbs a little, I predict things are going to get problematic. . LolaBeans The LW needs to talk to her boyfriend about how his actions make her feel. Looking for signs and cues is, as sure you might be, assumption. We just got thru the holidays. Trust me, I like to avoid problems just like the next person, but I think theres a difference between letting things slide and not being confrontational and willfully blinding yourself to the reality of your relationship. I just dont understand this concept. But to leave your girlfriend every weekend for no other reason than youd rather spend time with your parents than with her is showing a major red flag. Friends of her own? you still have some kinks to work out and a lot to learn about eachother! To use my own example, my mom lives alone, she is not the most sociable person, so I go and see her for a couple of hours almost every weekend, while my BF does his own thing, whatever that may be. Instead of alienating him, encourage him.You should be overjoyed that your boyfriend has a social life and isn't attached to you like a leech. Really? I had to learn that people mean different things by it. In many cultures that is the norm. What should I do? January 20, 2012, 8:08 am. I could sort of see this also playing into the bf still seeing his parents as his nuclear family, thus the #1 priority for his free time. Bike riding? When you get home, youre probably tootired from work, finish the basic chores around the house, and then fall asleep halfway through a movie on the couch. a lot of people just arent that way. June 18, 2014, 10:50 am. I think I need more info. As your history with him has shown, he likes spending The BF is emotionally (and physically) unavailable and I dont know that it will change without some sort of drastic action from the LW. And there are always occasions forfamily gatherings. I think a lot of people on here are offering her good suggestions to try and help her with her boyfriend and to get him to spend less time with his family and more time hanging out with her. Its my little refuge, and sometimes I like coming home and just hanging out on the couch with the BF reading or watching movies. June 18, 2014, 12:47 pm. What are the main reasons why he behaves like that: 1. If the situation is even more complicated, for example, if his parents are old or his siblings have problems, your husband will feel even more guilty for leaving them. I agree with you AND Flake, RR.at the same time, if their biggest issue is spending too much time with his parents on the weekends I think theyre probably in pretty good shape. Anne has since finished her probation and has a 5-year-old son who my mother dotes on. They live in a suburb of New York, where we live, and weve somehow gotten into a routine of spending significant amounts of time at their house nearly every weekend. . The finance issue, however, would bother me more at this point. I got to see my parents occasionally after work even when he was away. For the first two months we dated, hed go and see his mom for an hour or two during the weekend, because I lived in the same town as she did and as my parents did. The rest of the time he spent with me. Have a bbq with friends. Something like frequent arguments, disagreements, misunderstandings? . If this has only been happening for three weeks, I dont really think you have a reason to worry. ele4phant Hes probably simply not used to her stating her own desires and needs if she always goes along with him. My husband and I are very much like you all except reversed. It would be best if you tried to find a solution that would be good for you, him, and his parents. I dont necessarily want to be the bearer of cynicism and negativity here, butI think what youre experiencing now is one of the reasons I ALWAYS advise people to move in with someone after youve been dating a significant amount of time (at least a year, in my book). Dont necessarily agree with this.. For example, if he goes there during the day, has lunch with them, and then comes home and spends time with her, I dont think that is such a bad arrangement. GatorGirl If he wants to visit his parents for dinner once or twice a week, his wife should be accompanying him. I would probably always choose vegging at my parents house over mine, or even my boyfriends. I dont think the parents issue is as big of a deal as the not-communicating-about-money-very-well thing. Like, I just went to The Niagara falls of Pennsylvania it was no Niagara but a nice day trip. January 20, 2012, 9:37 am. He knows the most delicious homemade lunch prepared by his mom (he probably thinks you can never cook as well as his mother) is waiting for him. The timeline seems off here. , And BGM made the point also that except for what seems like an obvious dealbreaker to most people, they have a wonderful, amazing, great relationship. Bring it up and communicate your feelings and desires. She is communicating to us, that even though she is coming up short on the finance side, if her live in boyfriend eased off the time with the family visiting, she wouuld be ok. ForeverYoung YES! Well, I guess that frame of mind is just not one Im personally willing to take. If youve explained that to him and he doesnt care or doesnt have any interest in meeting your needs, theres not a ton you can do. If he came back home, he would insist that we spend the whole weekend out in the rural area hanging out with his parents. But, if I were you, I wouldnt go every time. I am close with my family and, if they lived in the same city as me, yeah, Id probably want to see them at least once a week. Its best to spend one Christmas with his family and the next with yours, right? Am I being unreasonable for not wanting to go to his parents house every weekend? leilani WebOn one level he wants to be the good husband and provide for you and make you safe and enjoy happy and fulfilling moments with you. Communication people. The last few years, he's wanted to go to holidays with his family, it's important to him, and I've wanted to spend my I just truly think this stuff is common sense, which is why it is so baffling to me. Finally, I would pacify your BF by saying that once a month the parents should come to the city and visit you. Your problem is thinking you can change him. Dont go this weekend. A day at the lake or beach or some body of water? Agreed. Lindsay After knowing and hearing most peoples story, it all comes down to men choosing their family over their partner. Ok, fine, I do this. True enough, Flake. *If you have a relationship/dating question I can help answer, send me your letters at wendy@dearwendy.com and be sure to follow me on Twitter. Hes not weird to want to spend time with his parents, and if shes gone along with it until now, getting him to change wont be easy. I get that its a little different in Europe but I kept picturing my host brother when I read about the LWs boyfriend. He usually wants to go to his parents house every single weekend he gets to come home. Whats behind your husbands need to spend every weekend with his family? I can totally see this though, wanting to chill at the parents. Theres nothing inherently wrong with wanting to spend a ton of time with your family. Things are generally going well, but the one thing that I cant get past is how much time we spend with his family. I think like Wendy said its perfectly fine to let him know you would prefer to have time in your own house on the weekends. If he chooses visiting his parents because the alternative is sitting at home, plan some fun things for you two to do together that will be too good for him to pass up. Just the fact that his mom is dropping by unannounced makes me uncomfortable, considering the current state of the world. January 20, 2012, 10:50 am. January 20, 2012, 8:21 am. TaraMonster January 20, 2012, 9:32 am, Actually, Im with you on the finance thing. Its sad that we put our heads in the sand, but who wants to really start over, by themselves, when your husband or wife of however many years has been cheating on you. If mom is like, begging them to stay every single time, thats beyond just a mere annoyance obviously. I imagine the problem would be solved pretty easily. I think of it as the I got you phenomenon. You might even consider scheduling family holidays to spend time with Maybe he is making up time for that. but, i mean my husband and i just talked about it. Michelle His family is about a 3 hour drive away from us while mine and second, maybe have a date night once a weekend or something like that, where you dont have the stress of work/school to think about for the next day. Cue unintelligble grumbling. And its not as if the family bonded during their time together; they for the most part stayed in their own rooms reading and whatnot. But seriously, moving in with a guy after dating him for three months? So many people spend a ton of time with family. lets_be_honest I can use a personal example as well. OR look up state parks. Yeah, I dont see the dysfunction either. June 18, 2014, 9:59 am, Haha, I think this is quite extreme. ReginaRey June 18, 2014, 10:18 am. I think you are already there, and having a great relationship *except for this one huge thing I want to change about that person* isnt the same as simply have a great relationship. Thats what I wondered why does she have to go with every weekend? Your husband sees you every day of the week It is possible that from your husbands I am afraid for humanity. ele4phant Bklyn Grl I talk to my boyfriend about this, but he doesnt think either he or his parents encourage this kind of behavior or that the behavior is even weird. Just tell him you are unhappy with your current social life. That would be great if your husband didnt spend every weekend with his family instead of you. If you have a relationship/dating question I can help answer, you can send me your letters at wendy@dearwendy.com. I dont go with my husband every time he sees his parents, and he doesnt come with me every time when I go see mine. June 18, 2014, 12:55 pm. January 20, 2012, 9:54 am. When we decided it was serious, he introduced me to his mom one weekend, and I introduced him to my parents the next. A lot of family time. but no one thought anything of it if someone had other plans or didnt come for a few weeks. Thats an attempt at emotional manipulation and its not healthy. That in itself is not dysfunctional, but putting a guilt trip on somebody because they would rather do something else is. January 20, 2012, 10:57 am. Could that be why theyve been there so much? She doesnt mention doing it with him at all. He has a scenario in his head of how they feel hurt, and thats why he has to see them every weekend. Dear Demetria: Im a newlywed. Addie Pray If Bitter Gay Mark disagrees with me, Ill reconsider. For every invitation I declined, four more appeared, she said. Ann Cannon. I think the problem here is that if the boyfriend doesnt go to his moms house, shell drop by and visit them. If they had more time during the week to spend together after work, maybe spending most of the weekend with the in-laws wouldnt be such an issue. Often in relationships, we wonder if we are overthinking things and imagining a problem where there isnt one. Your bf dated you before so you know he is capable of doing it again. Maybe he feels that since he sees the gf all week now, he should spend weekends with his family. Even if they stay together and even if she manages to persuade her boyfriend to spend less time with his parents, the parents are going to resent the LW for it. If youre not into the family bit, I would suggest not dating someone who completely is. Starting over! So make him choose. Years later, theyve never recovered. There are so many preserved places that are paid for with tax dollars so you might as well use them. Besides, the whole point of living in NYC is so you dont have to rely on Metro North to get int to the city on the weekends amirite!? I dont know that I would use the word dysfunctional, but I do think that the parents and the son are a bit clingy. Make sure that you are sensitive to your husband and your in-laws. ForeverYoung Youre right, LW, this is dysfunctional. Some people rather deal with never knowing they cheated and live in the sand and keep up with the good life, then know about it and have to start over fresh. It doesnt mean he loves her any less. I consider myself to have a pretty close relationship with my own family, but they live in another state, and I really dont require seeing them more than once every 6 weeks or even being in touch more than every couple of days. I agree something seems off here, because they have lived together ALMOST THREE weeks, and go to his parents house NEARLY every weekend, but only since they have lived together. I think its also different when it isnt your family. I agree that it is dysfunctional. Who knows, he might even find a girlfriend whod be willing to move in with his parents, and then hed never have to make a choice about who to spend more time with. your husband wants to visit his family without you, doesnt want to spend Christmas with your family, You and your husband wanting to live in different places. Some families really are just that close. Maybe something is up with his family? Laura Hope its a really exciting time for your relationship! Say, what if I only come to your parents one weekend a month, and you only go 2-3? That way you get some weekend time alone with him and you only go over there once a month. when we have an issue with something we just say lets talk about it. Or rob a bank to pay for the more costly dates. Fast-forward almost 30 years: I become friends with several ppl who all are super tight with their moms. And unless he has something planned, he stays in reading/watching TV/listening to music until bed at midnight. Schedule some girls' nights out. At best, you will an appendage to his family. Like he was programmed that way. Perhaps if something was planned, hed break his routine, and realize that it is fun sometimes to stay in the city. June 18, 2014, 12:24 pm. Your Not just loving-tight, but codependent-tight. Spend most of their spare time with Mom, and significant others take a backseat. She should say something about it to the BF at least. I realize that some situations are delicate, and they may want help on what exactly to say, but this isnt really one of those. Also, the ex use to work on a project, like something with his old truck or building something, or whatever, and I would sit outside by him and read, which is something I enjoyed doing. I really like going on dates and spending time with just you on Saturday and exploring the city, parton_doll Im not saying its come to that yet, but Im suggesting the LW force her bf to choose if he wont honor her wish to stay home once in a while. Make plans for activities. My husband likes Anonymousse Francine But he also has to understand thathis number one family is you when he gets married. Dont people like to do things in their cities? when we went to move in together we just said ok, what price range are you looking for. Agreed, there is too much time spent sitting on the couch in this letter. Or stay the whole time? are they spending every minute of their entire weekend with his family? For that matter, so do many of the ideas posted here in response. But what Im truly wondering is if this difference in opinion over how to spend the weekends is reflective of other big differences between you two that you didnt have time to learn before you moved in together. I guess then that depends on the LWs definition of a routine of spending significant amounts of time at their house nearly every weekend. I have a friend in Chicago who, as soon as he gets off work at 4:30 (bastard works until only 4:30!) 15 signs he doesnt want to spend time with you 1) Hes always busy Granted, most people are busy these days. Then offer a compromise. And the rest of my family in US get together almost every weekend as well. Easily worked out and if not, then you probably have bigger issues than the garbage. If you actually like your partner, there's a chance you'll want to spend Christmas day together. Tell him youre staying home this weekend. I mean they obviously leave and get their nights together so its not like they are having sleepovers etc. Will you LWs simply never learn? I have to say, I kind of feel like LW jumped the gun on this one. If the amount of time he spends with his parents is causing an issue in his relationship, then I would say its definitely a problem he needs to address. I am actually not promoting anything. My family lives a 45 mins train ride out of Grand Central (not including hopping a cab or the subway to get to GCT- and then the ride to their place once we get off the train) and if I made my boyfriend go with me once a week to see them he would be less than thrilled. allathian Tell him that you feel neglected and that it hurts that you never spend weekends together. You and your husband wanting to live in different placesis probably a usual cause of arguments in your marriage. January 20, 2012, 10:51 am, lets_be_honest Five months later I was pregnant. Sometimes he comes with me (although he is absolutely not obligated to do so), sometimes he goes shopping for things that he knows I have no interest in, sometimes he just sleeps and veggies out on the couch, or goes to the gym.. If money is tight, you dont even have to plan expensive excursions. Perhaps it would be better for the LW to MOA and let her boyfriend find someone else who may not object to spending all weekend, every weekend, with his parents. Pretty much. If she is like lets do XYZ and he says no, lets sit at momsyeah thats a little off. You know I was in a similar situation once, my ex and his parents like to see each other a lot more than I liked to see them. January 20, 2012, 12:15 pm. If one or a few things are particularly very important to you, then those will most likely be discussed just because. They arent her parents. if it works for you, thats all that matters. That sounds like two out of three, and maybe that was because of the holidays. My husband calls his mom about once a week as well and his dad a few times a year. im kind of confused. Thats why he wants to help them all the time and probably helps them with various jobs every weekend. Added to that it already is a large issue (for you), because you are writing in to an advice column about it. January 4, 2021, 3:35 am. Let your boyfriend stay at his parents longer and do something else in the meantime. So if you feel your husband growing distant, and you realize he hasnt said I love you in a long time, it could be because hes wrestling with feeling like he doesnt want you around. In other words, its a big sign he doesnt want to spend time with you. Heres a look at the 5 big stages successful relationships have to go through. What matters is how his behavior and how his lifestyle make you feel. Maybe if you stop going every single time hell decide to stay home with you every now and then. June 18, 2014, 10:54 am. If you dont say anything, how in the hell is he supposed to know anything is wrong? For me to sit in the house miles away from my family because his family dont live over the road no more they moved may last year and he was up there alot by bus but now they have a car i never see him and i am not exagerating even when he is here he sits up in the bedroom and i dont see him unless he wants a cup of tea and to use the bathroom how ever when i go to bed and my son is asleep thats when we connect and have a good time chat cuddle but in the back of my mind i am worrying that there is more to him staying out all of the time and if its over i wud rather him just say so i can adjust to life with out him rather than live like this something has to change, Trust me girl im glad am not the only one that is going thro this i know exactly how u are feelin, Angelicque November 29, 2019, 5:49 pm, Angelique so you dont promote communicating with your partner about money or anything else before moving in? June 18, 2014, 10:17 am. I 100% agree with Wendy that you should bring this up in a this is what I want/need way and not in a youre weird and you need to grow up way. Now that they are obviously not, it is definitely time for some conversation. LW, you are not being unreasonable! GatorGirl You even noticed thatyour husband wants to visit his family without you. Do you just go to your SO and say, Dear, before we do that we have to talk. There is also a possibility that his parents create this feeling of guilt. January 20, 2012, 7:40 pm. January 20, 2012, 9:29 am. My dads side of the family is like this- I have an uncle and aunt who spend every day at my grandparents for at least a few hours. Its one thing to have dinner with your family once a week. Ill add that another strategy you could try if those mentioned dont work is to simply spend less time at his parents house yourself. I hate to say it, but I dont think your boyfriend or his parents (especially his parents) are going to change. Who does that? ReginaRey I really do not think that there is any set amount of time a couple should be dating or know each other before moving to the next stage of the relationship. Is this normal? GatorGirl I love my city, but I also love my home (for clarification, I am referring to my apartment I dont live with or near my parents). June 18, 2014, 2:20 pm. I dont know how to handle a situation that hasnt happened yet. Oh yeah I forgot to leave out I never see my family at all he spends every holiday with his parents while I sit at home with my children, Skyblossom If you can be open minded, its very easy to compare this way of life to a cult truly. He needs a lot of family time, you need a lot of just-the-two-of-you time. Next time your boyfriend says we are going to my folks Saturday, sound good? Say this: Are we going spend every weekend at your parents from now on? He has 3 sons two who are 26 (act like June 18, 2014, 10:47 am. Laura Hope I agree with you both. Just because you live together does not mean the dating portion of events is over. January 20, 2012, 11:08 am. Hey, were in 100% agreement today, as opposed to 80%. DO NOT just wait every weekend with huffy baited breath to see what he will choose, voice what you want. June 18, 2014, 10:08 am. Doesnt the LW ever have anything she needs to get done? He knows this because its important to me so I talk about it. No, not necessarily. LW has already talked to bf and this hasnt worked. ForeverYoung Im in the same situation as well. Follow along on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. . I would plan some things. I used to joke with Bassanio that Jews and Catholics had a lot in common: the parental guilt. muchachaenlaventana Its completely free, gets you out of the house, and we leave our phones in the car so no chance for parent interruption! Yeah thats what I thought too, that the LW doesnt have to spend every minute there. FireStar I can see it both ways. 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